Re: Gollum will explode in a rage
Von: Brimstone (brimstone520-ng03@yahoo.co.uk) [Profil]
Datum: 17.07.2008 10:47
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Newsgroup: uk.transport
Datum: 17.07.2008 10:47
Message-ID: <j9udnfdyMpu4muLVRVnyiwA@bt.com>
Newsgroup: uk.transport
Abo wrote: > Adrian wrote: >> Doug <dougbollen@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like >> they were saying: >> >>>>> 2p? Yawn. To cover the real cost of motoring petrol would need to >>>>> cost 2.50 per litre. 2p more or less won't do anything to >>>>> discourage frivolous hypermobility or ameliorate the external >>>>> costs imposed by selfish motorists on the rest of society. So you >>>>> are quite wrong. Even if the government were to increase duty by >>>>> 2p, I would still think that petrol is scandalously cheap. >> >>>> Even if the government were to increase duty by £20 per litre, you >>>> would still think that petrol is scandalously cheap. Mind you, >>>> since you're an anarchist and therefore against the very concept of >>>> "government", I don't quite know who you're planning to be in >>>> charge of setting and collecting the duty on fuel. >> >>> Anarchy is not the same as chaos. Social systems of organisation >>> don't cease to exist simply because there no longer is a monopoly >>> on power. Under anarchy there would still be a justice system. >>> Under anarchy, there would be no need for fuel duty, because >>> without a government pandering to motorists, they would be forced >>> to fully compensate others for the true cost they impose on them. >>> For example, every time they pollute a neighbourhood with fumes and >>> noise, the neighbourhood community would be free charge a toll. >>> The community would be able to set any price they wish. There would >>> be no government to mandate that roads must be free at the point of >>> usage. >> >> ITYM "No road would have got built". >> >> OK, so there's a justice system. There would have to be for the very >> concept of this "toll" to carry any weight whatsoever - and for the >> "community" to have some kind of protection from any old conman who >> fancies setting himself up just up the road as a toll collector. >> >> But who defines the legislation and appoints the judiciary? Who >> provides the checks and balances to avoid miscarriages of justice? >> Who ensures the justice system - from beat plod to the very top - is >> fair and unbiased? > > Under an anarchic system 'the community' themselves do all this. They > decide when something is 'wrong', whether someone is 'guilty' and what > punishment is to be given, on a case-by-case basis. But wouldn't that be "mob rule"?[ Auf dieses Posting antworten ]
