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Re: Gollum will explode in a rage

Von: Brimstone (brimstone520-ng03@yahoo.co.uk) [Profil]
Datum: 17.07.2008 10:47
Message-ID: <j9udnfdyMpu4muLVRVnyiwA@bt.com>
Newsgroup: uk.transport
Abo wrote:
> Adrian wrote:
>> Doug <dougbollen@googlemail.com> gurgled happily, sounding much like
>> they were saying:
>>
>>>>> 2p? Yawn. To cover the real cost of motoring petrol would need to
>>>>> cost 2.50 per litre. 2p more or less won't do anything to
>>>>> discourage frivolous hypermobility or ameliorate the external
>>>>> costs imposed by selfish motorists on the rest of society. So you
>>>>> are quite wrong. Even if the government were to increase duty by
>>>>> 2p, I would still think that petrol is scandalously cheap.
>>
>>>> Even if the government were to increase duty by £20 per litre,
you
>>>> would still think that petrol is scandalously cheap. Mind you,
>>>> since you're an anarchist and therefore against the very concept of
>>>> "government", I don't quite know who you're planning to be in
>>>> charge of setting and collecting the duty on fuel.
>>
>>> Anarchy is not the same as chaos. Social systems of organisation
>>> don't cease to exist simply because there no longer is a monopoly
>>> on power. Under anarchy there would still be a justice system.
>>> Under anarchy, there would be no need for fuel duty, because
>>> without a government pandering to motorists, they would be forced
>>> to fully compensate others for the true cost they impose on them.
>>> For example, every time they pollute a neighbourhood with fumes and
>>> noise, the neighbourhood community  would be free charge a toll.
>>> The community would be able to set any price they wish. There would
>>> be no government to mandate that roads must be free at the point of
>>> usage.
>>
>> ITYM "No road would have got built".
>>
>> OK, so there's a justice system. There would have to be for the very
>> concept of this "toll" to carry any weight whatsoever - and for the
>> "community" to have some kind of protection from any old conman who
>> fancies setting himself up just up the road as a toll collector.
>>
>> But who defines the legislation and appoints the judiciary? Who
>> provides the checks and balances to avoid miscarriages of justice?
>> Who ensures the justice system - from beat plod to the very top - is
>> fair and unbiased?
>
> Under an anarchic system 'the community' themselves do all this. They
> decide when something is 'wrong', whether someone is 'guilty' and what
> punishment is to be given, on a case-by-case basis.

But wouldn't that be "mob rule"?



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