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Qualifying Statistics #11 - Hungaroring

Von: Brian Lawrence (brian_w_lawrence@msn.com) [Profil]
Datum: 03.08.2008 19:04
Message-ID: <6fm6ojFbaollU1@mid.individual.net>
Newsgroup: uk.sport.motorsport.formula1
Average Starting Position 2008 - after Hungaroring, Qualifying #11
=================================================================

2008     2008                        2007     2006     2005      2004      2003
Pos.     ASP                       Pos. ASP Pos. ASP Pos. ASP  Pos. ASP  Pos. ASP
=================================================================================
1.      3.09 (-0.01) F Massa        4  4.24  2  6.67 17 11.89  18 13.50   -  -
2. (3)  4.00 (-0.30) L Hamilton     1  2.59  -  -     -  -      -  -      -  -
3. (2)  4.27 (+0.17) K Räikkönen    3  3.53  4  5.83  2  5.68   9  8.22   6 
6.81
4.      4.45 (-0.05) R Kubica       6  7.00  9  8.83  -  -      -  -      -  -
5.      4.64 (-0.26) H Kovalainen  10 10.71  -  -     -  -      -  -      -  -
6.      6.27 (+0.07) F Alonso       2  3.18  1  4.28  1  3.95   7  7.56   8  7.88
7.      7.73 (+0.13) J Trulli       8  9.24 14 10.28  5  6.11   6  6.71   7  7.31
8.      7.91 (+0.01) M Webber       7  9.06  7 11.06  8  8.00  13  9.72  11  9.88
9.      8.82 (+0.62) N Heidfeld     5  5.41 10 10.17 12  9.57  21 16.00  15 12.31
10.(11) 11.64 (-0.66) T Glock        -  -     -  -     -  -     22 16.50   -  -
11() 12.09 (+0.09) D Coulthard   13 13.35 13 14.17 16 11.00  10  9.39   9  8.50
12() 12.18 (+0.18) N Rosberg      9  9.88 12 13.33  -  -      -  -      -  -
13() 13.45 (-0.15) J Button      14 13.94  3  7.78  4  5.94   3  5.50  13 11.33
14.(15) 13.64 (-0.36) N Piquet       -  -     -  -     -  -      -  -      -  -
15() 13.91 (+0.29) R Barrichello 16 15.00  6  7.61 13 10.53   2  4.56   1  3.63
(16) 13.91 (-0.29) S Vettel      15 14.38  -  -     -  -      -  -      -  -
17.     15.09 (+0.09) S Nakajima    22 19.00  -  -     -  -      -  -      -   -
18.     16.27 (+0.27) S Bourdais     -  -     -  -     -  -      -  -      -  -
19.     18.27 (-0.03) G Fisichella  11 10.82  3  5.61  3  5.74  17 12.33  19 13.88
20.     18.73 (+0.13) A Sutil       23 20.29  -  -     -  -      -  -      -  -
21.     20.75         T Sato        20 17.29 20 19.67 14 10.88   8  8.06  16 13.00
22.     21.25         A Davidson    19 16.06  -  -    22 15.00   -  -      -  -

Averages include all demotions such as engine/gearbox change penalties, but not
last minute changes such as pitlane starts.


Average Team Starting Position 2008 - after Hungaroring, Qualifying #11
======================================================================

2008                       2007      2006     2005      2004      2003      2002
Pos. ASP                   Pos. ASP  Pos. ASP  Pos. ASP  Pos. ASP  Pos. ASP  Pos. ASP
======================================================================================
1.  3.68 (+0.08) Ferrari    2.  3.88  2.  6.06  6.  9.37  1.  4.25  1.  3.94  1.  2.35
2.  4.32 (-0.28) McLaren    1.  2.88  3.  6.89  2.  6.61  5.  8.81  4.  7.66  3.  5.62
3.  6.64 (+0.29) BMW-Sauber 3.  6.18  6. 10.81  8. 11.95  8. 12.92  8. 12.81  5. 10.97*
4.  9.68 (-0.27) Toyota     4. 10.79  5. 10.11  3.  7.47  7. 11.81  5. 10.09  8. 14.59
5.  9.95 (-0.15) Renault    5. 10.82  1.  4.94  1.  4.84  4.  7.47  3.  7.59  4.  9.50
6. 10.00 (+0.05) Red Bull   6. 11.21  8. 14.65  7. 11.24  6. 11.69  7. 11.84  9. 15.79*
7. 13.64 (+0.14) Williams   7. 12.65  7. 12.19  5.  9.32  2.  6.39  2.  5.03  2.  3.21
8. 13.68 (+0.08) Honda      8. 14.47  4.  7.75  4.  8.53  3.  6.78  6. 11.48  6. 12.71*
9. 15.09 (-0.01) T Rosso    9. 16.21  9. 15.83 10. 17.50 10. 18.53 10. 18.66 11. 20.32*
10. 18.50 (+0.05) F India   11. 20.82 10. 18.06  9. 16.97  9. 16.36  9. 15.53  7. 13.33*
11. 21.00         S Aguri   10. 16.68 11. 20.14  -   -     -   -     -   -     -   -

*  Red Bull = Jaguar (2002-04), Honda = BAR (2002-05), BMW-Sauber = Sauber (2002-05),
Force India = Spyker (2007) = Midland (2006) = Jordan (2002-05), Toro Rosso = Minardi
(2002-05)

Note: Throughout my 2007 season posts the data in the 2006 columns was incorrect.


Team-mates Head-to-Head 2008 - after Hungaroring, Qualifying #11
===============================================================

Team        Driver-1          Driver-2     Posn.
===============================================
Renault     Alonso      11-0  Piquet        +81

Red Bull    Webber      10-1  Coulthard     +54
BMW-Sauber  Kubica      10-1  Heidfeld      +48

Toyota      Trulli       8-3  Glock         +43
Williams    Rosberg      8-3  Nakajima      +28

Toro Rosso  Vettel       7-4  Bourdais      +26
Ferrari     Massa        7-4  Räikkönen     +13
McLaren     Hamilton     7-4  Kovalainen     +7

Honda       Button       6-5  Barrichello    +5
Force India Fisichella   6-5  Sutil          +5

S Aguri     Sato         2-2  Davidson       +2

Notes: "Posn." shows the advantage in qualifying positions to date. A
positive number shows the driver on the left has the advantage and a
negative number the driver on the right.


Grid Penalties
=============

Someone suggested that a list of grid penalties would be a useful addition.

Qual  Penalties (reason)
========================================================================
01 AUS  Timo Glock      9th  2 x 5-place (gearbox & blocking)
01 AUS  Adrian Sutil   19th  pitlane start (changed engine)

02 MAL  H Kovalainen    3rd  5-place (blocking)
02 MAL  Lewis Hamilton  4th  5-place (blocking)
02 MAL  K Nakajima     18th  10-place (caused accident in AUS)

05 TUR  G Fisichella   19th  5-place (exited pits through red light)

06 MON  D Coulthard    10th  5-place (gearbox)
06 MON  S Vettel       18th  5-place (gearbox)
06 MON  G Fisichella   20th  5-place (gearbox)

07 CDN  S Bourdais     16th  5-place (gearbox)
07 CDN  Jenson Button  19th  5-place (gearbox)
07 CDN  S Vettel       20th  5-place (gearbox)

08 FRA  Lewis Hamilton  3rd  10-place (caused accident in CDN)
08 FRA  H Kovalainen    5th  5-place (blocking)
08 FRA  Nico Rosberg   15th  10-place (caused accident in CDN)

09 GBR  Nico Rosberg   18th  pitlane start (changed car after qual)

11 HUN  S Bourdais     14th  5-place (blocking)


Appearances in Each Qualifying Session
=====================================

Q-1  Q-2  Q-3
============================
L Hamilton       11   11   11
H Kovalainen     11   11   11
R Kubica         11   11   11*  GBR (2 laps)
F Massa          11   11   11

F Alonso         11   11   10
K Räikkönen      11   11*  10   AUS (0 laps)

J Trulli         11   11    9
M Webber         11   11*   9*  AUS (2 laps), CDN (0 laps)

N Heidfeld       11   10    7

D Coulthard      11    9    5*  MON (0 laps)

T Glock          11   11    4
N Rosberg        11   10*   4   HUN (0 laps)

S Vettel         11*   7    3*  AUS (2 laps), CDN (0 laps)
N Piquet         11    7    3

R Barrichello    11    7    1
J Button         11    8    1

K Nakajima       11    6    0
S Bourdais       11    6    0

G Fisichella     11    0    0
A Sutil          11    0    0
T Sato            4    0    0
A Davidson        4    0    0

* Set no time in one or more sessions.


Best Qualifying Performances (Current Drivers)
=============================================

Best in 2008     Best in   Best in   Best before 2006
Driver         Posn.(#) GP(s)   2007 (#)  2006 (#)  Posn. (#) First  - Last
============================================================================
L Hamilton     Pole (4) . . .   Pole (6)  ---       ---
F Massa        Pole (3) . . .   Pole (6)  Pole (3)  4th   (3) AUT 02 - BRA 04
K Räikkönen    Pole (2) FRA     Pole (3)  Pole (3)  Pole  (8) Eur 03 - TUR 05
R Kubica       Pole (1) BRN     4th  (1)  6th  (1)  ---
H Kovalainen   Pole (1) GBR     6th  (2)  ---       ---

F Alonso       2nd  (1) ESP     Pole (2)  Pole (6)  Pole  (9) MAL 03 - CHN 05
M Webber       2nd  (1) GBR     5th  (1)  2nd  (1)  2nd   (2) MAL 04 - ESP 05
J Trulli       3rd  (1) MAL     6th  (1)  3rd  (1)  Pole  (3) MON 04 - USA 05
N Heidfeld     5th  (3) . . .   2nd  (1)  3rd  (1)  Pole  (1) Eur 05
N Rosberg      5th  (1) CDN     4th  (1)  3rd  (1)  ---
T Glock        5th  (1) HUN     ---       ---       16th  (2) CDN 04 - CHN 04
D Coulthard    7th  (1) FRA     5th  (1)  7th  (1)  Pole (12) ARG 95 - MON 01
N Piquet       7th  (1) GBR     ---       ---       ---
S Vettel       8th  (1) GBR     7th  (1)  ---       ---
J Button       9th  (1) BRN     6th  (1)  Pole (1)  Pole  (2) RSM 04 - CDN 05
R Barrichello  9th  (1) CDN     9th  (1)  3rd  (2)  Pole (13) BEL 94 - BRA 04

K Nakajima     12th (2) ESP/CDN 19th (1)  ---       ---
S Bourdais     13th (1) GBR     ---       ---       ---
G Fisichella   16th (1) AUS     4th  (1)  Pole (1)  Pole  (2) AUT 98 - AUS 05
A Sutil        16th (1) CDN     19th (3)  ---       ---
T Sato         19th (1) MAL     10th (1)  17th (2)  2nd   (1) Eur 04
A Davidson     21st (3) . . .   11th (2)  ---       15th  (1) MAL 05


Personal Bests set at Hockenheim
===============================

Career            2008 Season
=====================================
Pole  L Hamilton (10)   L Hamilton (4)
5th   T Glock           T Glock


Most Pole Positions
==================

Several people have opined that I ought to revise this list and I have
taken notice. However, what I'm going to do is provide the top 25 up
to 2003 and a 'modern' list since 2002 - reflecting the change from
traditional qualifying to the current shoot-out (and variations).

1950-2002 (Top 25)                Since 2003 (Top 10)
=========================         =======================
1 Ayrton Senna        65         1 Michael Schumacher  18 +
2 Michael Schumacher  50 +       2 Fernando Alonso     17
3 Jim Clark           33         3 Kimi Räikkönen      16
Alain Prost         33         4 Felipe Massa        14
5 Nigel Mansell       32         5 Lewis Hamilton      10
6 Juan Manuel Fangio  29         6 Rubens Barrichello   7 +
7 Mika Häkkinen       26         7 Ralf Schumacher      5 +
8 Niki Lauda          24         8 Juan Pablo Montoya   3 +
Nelson Piquet       24           Jarno Trulli         3
10 Damon Hill          20           Jenson Button        3
11 Mario Andretti      18
René Arnoux         18
13 Jackie Stewart      17
14 Stirling Moss       16       + also achieved poles in other
15 Alberto Ascari      14         era
Ronnie Peterson     14
James Hunt          14
18 Graham Hill         13
Jack Brabham        13
Jacky Ickx          13
Jacques Villeneuve  13
21 David Coulthard     12
Gerhard Berger      12
24 Jochen Rindt        10
Juan Pablo Montoya  10 +

Since 2003 we have had:

* Single lap qualifying (2003-05, except for AUS-MON 2005)
* Two single-lap sessions aggregated (AUS-MON 2005 only)
* Knockout, 3-period, race fuel (from EUR 2005)


The Recent Record of Pole Position Holders at the Hungaroring
============================================================

Year Time     Driver        Chassis         Rslt  Winner                Grd
===========================================================================
1998 1'16.973 M Häkkinen    McLaren MP4/13   6th  M Schumacher Ferrari  3rd
----
1999 1'18.156 M Häkkinen    McLaren MP4/14   1st
----
2000 1'17.514 M Schumacher  Ferrari F1-2000  2nd  Häkkinen     McLaren  3rd
2001 1'14.059 M Schumacher  Ferrari F2001    1st
2002 1'13.333 R Barrichello Ferrari F2002    1st
----
2003 1'21.688 F Alonso      Renault R23B     1st
----
2004 1'19.323 M Schumacher  Ferrari F2004    1st
2005 1'19.882 M Schumacher  Ferrari F2005    2nd  Räikkönen    McLaren  4th
2006 1'19.599 K Räikkönen   McLaren MP4/21   DNF  Button       Honda    14th
2007 1'19.781 L Hamilton    McLaren MP4/22   1st
2008 1'20.899 L Hamilton    McLaren MP4/22   5th  Kovalainen   McLaren  2nd

---- indicates changes in track layout and/or lap length.

Note: 2003-05 was decided on "single lap". Since 2006 the grid has been
decided on a three-period knockout system. The "pole time" is no longer
necessarily the fastest time set during qualifying.

There have been 23 Grands Prix at the Hungaroring,
11 have been won from pole position (last was Hamilton in 2007),
four have been won from second (Kovalainen in 2008),
five have been won from third (Häkkinen in 2000), and
three have been won from lower grid positions - (Mansell, 1989,
12th; Räikkönen, 2005, 4th; Button 2006, 14th).

Average grid position of winners = 2.783.


2008 Grid Positions
==================

Driver        Team       R1 R2 BRN ESP TUR MON CDN FRA GBR GER HUN Tot Avg.
===========================================================================
F Massa       Ferrari     4  1   2   3   1   1   6   2   9   2   3  34  3.09
L Hamilton    McLaren     1  9   3   5   3   3   1  13   4   1   1  44  4.00
K Räikkönen   Ferrari    15  2   4   1   4   2   3   1   3   6   6  47  4.27
R Kubica      BMW Sauber  2  4   1   4   5   5   2   5  10   7   4  49  4.45
H Kovalainen  McLaren     3  8   5   6   2   4   7  10   1   3   2  51  4.64
F Alonso      Renault    11  7  10   2   7   7   4   3   6   5   7  69  6.27
J Trulli      Toyota      6  3   7   8   8   8  14   4  14   4   9  85  7.73
M Webber      Red Bull   14  6  11   7   6   9  10   6   2   8   8  87  7.91
N Heidfeld    BMW Sauber  5  5   6   9   9  12   8  11   5  12  15  97  8.82
T Glock       Toyota     19 10  13  14  15  10  11   8  12  11   5 128 11.64
D Coulthard   Red Bull    8 12  17  17  10  15  13   7  11  10  13 133 12.09
N Rosberg     Williams    7 16   8  15  11   6   5  19  20  13  14 134 12.18
J Button      Honda      12 11   9  13  13  11  20  16  17  14  12 148 13.45
N Piquet      Renault    21 13  14  10  17  17  15   9   7  17  10 150 13.64
R Barrichello Honda      10 14  12  11  12  14   9  20  16  18  17 153 13.91
S Vettel      Toro Rosso  9 15  19  18  14  19  19  12   8   9  11 153 13.91
K Nakajima    Williams   13 22  16  12  16  13  12  15  15  16  16 166 15.09
S Bourdais    Toro Rosso 17 18  15  16  18  16  18  14  13  15  19 179 16.27
G Fisichella  F India    16 17  18  19  20  20  17  17  19  20  18 201 18.27
A Sutil       F India    18 20  20  20  19  18  16  18  18  19  20 206 18.73
T Sato        S Aguri    20 19  22  22   -   -   -   -   -   -   -  83 20.75
A Davidson    S Aguri    22 21  21  21   -   -   -   -   -   -   -  85 21.25

--

Brian W Lawrence
Wantage,
Oxfordshire, UK
Brian_W_Lawrence@msn.com



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