Re: Another crash into a building by a pavement motorist.

On Nov 9, 9:24 am, Tony Dragon <tony.dra...@btinternet.com> wrote:
> Doug wrote:
> > On 9 Nov, 08:32, Paul <chillisa...@googlemail.com> wrote:
> >> On 9 Nov, 07:40, Doug <jag...@riseup.net> wrote:
>
> >>> On 9 Nov, 00:50, Phil W Lee <phil(at)lee-family(dot)me(dot)uk>
wrote:
> >>>> Mike Ross <m...@corestore.org> considered Sat, 07 Nov 2009
18:43:07
> >>>> -0500 the perfect time to write:
> >>>>> On Sat, 7 Nov 2009 14:15:36 -0000, "mileburner"
<milebur...@btinter
net.com>
> >>>>> wrote:
> >>>>>> "Mike Ross" <m...@corestore.org> wrote in
message
> >>>>>>news:9fqaf55jjubvn740b4st99bpldeusn8j4a@4ax.com...
> >>>>>>> On Fri, 6 Nov 2009 23:59:53 -0800 (PST), Doug
<jag...@riseup.net>
wrote:
> >>>>>>>> Yes but my reason is we hear so often on
newsgroups about cyclis
ts on
> >>>>>>>> pavements and so rarely about motorists on
pavements, despite th
e huge
> >>>>>>>> difference in danger caused.
> >>>>>>> Ahh well that's a different question entirely; let's
face it, it'
s hardly
> >>>>>>> unknown for cyclists to deliberately cycle on the
pavement. It's 
very rare
> >>>>>>> indeed for a car to be driven on the pavement
*deliberately*.
> >>>>>> It is fairly common to drive a car on the pavement
*deliberately*.
> >>>>> That's on *to* the pavement, or *across* the pavement - not
driving
*along* the
> >>>>> pavement, as if it was a road! Some cyclists do at times ride
*alon
g* the
> >>>>> pavement as if it were a road; car drivers do this far far
less oft
en. That's
> >>>>> all I was saying, nothing more nothing less.
> >>>> Unless you have a design of car which can move sideways, driving
ont
o
> >>>> the pavement to park necessarily includes driving along it, unless
y
ou
> >>>> park at right angles to the road.
> >>>> I'm not saying this is impossible, but it's certainly not what I
see
> >>>> happening.
> >>> Another thing you see is parking on pavements which have continuous
> >>> kerbs which means the cars have to bump up the kerbs to get there.
> >>> The great big enormous problem with cars is always where to put them
> >>> when you are not using them.
> >> Thats solvable, build a building, a bit like a bike shed, only
> >> slightly bigger, and call it.....now lets see....i know a GARAGE.
>
> >> A garage is similar to a stable, only no shit to shovel.
>
> > So if you don't have a suitable property on which to build one then
> > you shouldn't own a car. Also when you drive somewhere where do you
> > leave your car? Is a garage always available at your destination?
>
> >> If everyone turned en-masse to the bicycle, dont you think there would
> >> be similar problems with where to store them ?
>
> > Most can be stored indoors, particularly folders.
> >> There's 5 in my family, we'd all need a bike each, therefore requiring
> >> more actual space to park them than is taken up by our one car.
>
> > Not necessarily. You can't park a car indoors and bikes take up less
> > space at destinations and of course there is always public transport
> > to turn to.
> >>  I've
> >> also got 3 work vehicles, all required, and would need probably over a
> >> hundred adults to pull the weights, and carry the goods that these 3
> >> do, HOW DO I SOLVE THAT PROBLEM ??
>
> > So you have chosen to shape your life around car dependency. Naturally
> > that will be a problem for you. Have you considered a lifestyle
> > change?
>
> > --
> > London Carfree
> >http://www.london.carfree.org.uk/
> > 1.5 million adults in London live without a car.
>
> I remember once before when you promised to give a report on how someone
> could change their lifestyle, whatever happened to 'Vince's Report'?
>
> --
>
> Tony Dragon


I'd forgotton about that, it must be two years ago that you promissed
that, where is that report or was it just more talk that you could not
follow up on?


PeterG
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