Che cavolo! Labour incompetence: Italian economy overtakes UK
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Datum: 24.10.2009 11:49
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Datum: 24.10.2009 11:49
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I seriously don't know which is more dangerous: incompetent muppets running the show or fools so mired in their folly they are oblivious to it. If all the "wise" men of Britain have been unable to regulate or legislate us out of recession, then the right course of action is surely the other way of deregulation and delegislation. Everything from H&S, maternity rights, equal opportunities and other PC absurdity has to go if the UK is to become economically competitive again. N5 http://www.timesonline.co.uk/tol/news/uk/article6888251.ece From The Times October 24, 2009 Traders sneer at 'useless' economists as data shows surprise fall in GDP Ian King and Gráinne Gilmore For City traders and economists, punch-drunk after two of the most extraordinary years in financial history, it was yet another moment of drama. At 9.30am yesterday, news hit the screens that the UK economy contracted by 0.4 per cent between July and September, shattering hopes that Britain had pulled out of recession and signalling the country’s longest downturn since records began in 1955. The market reaction was instant. The pound, which has already suffered heavy falls this year, was pummelled on foreign exchange markets. By comparison, the price of gilts — the IOUs issued by the Government — shot up, in anticipation that the Bank of England will be forced into buying more bonds as part of its drive to pump cash into the economy. In the Canary Wharf offices of BGC Partners, an international brokerage, Howard Wheeldon was pinned to his screen. Mr Wheeldon, a senior strategist, said: “For a few seconds, and that’s all, there was a stunned shock — to be followed by resignation. And then someone said, ‘Economists are no bloody good, are they?’ because so many of them had said the recession ended in the third quarter. The mood was one of resignation — plus the odd sneer to the effect that anyone who had thought the economy had come out of recession was living in cloud cuckoo land.” Little cheer was added when Citigroup later calculated that Britain’s economy had been overtaken by Italy. The figures showed that in the third quarter of the year, Britain’s economy generated about £347.5 billion in cash terms compared to Italy’s estimated £350 billion, making Britain the world’s seventh largest economy. Many economists insist that the Office for National Statistics got yesterday’s growth figures wrong. Many surveys of business activity carried out during the period had pointed to modest growth. The Purchasing Managers Indices for services and manufacturing — which were both extremely accurate in predicting the start of the recession — had suggested a pick-up. Chris Williamson, the chief economist at Markit, which produces the surveys, insisted that the ONS data was wrong. He said: “We think the numbers are wrong. A whole host of indicators other than ours show that the economy grew in the third quarter, powered by a stronger services sector. There is a risk that these figures could lead to disastrous policy mistakes. The ONS has always found measuring the services sector difficult.” Others pointed out that Britain is unusually early in providing a “first cut” of such data — which has often subsequently had to be revised upwards or downwards. The row will raise further questions about the ONS, whose data has been frequently criticised over its reliability in recent years, particularly its retail sales figures. That data has become so mistrusted that the British Retail Consortium, whose members include household names such as Marks & Spencer, Tesco and Boots, has resorted to publishing its own figures. The ONS stressed that the figures were only preliminary estimates, insisting that, where GDP data has been revised in the past, the average tweak has only been marginal. However, the ONS has twice revised down its preliminary estimates of GDP this year, most notably adjusting figures to show that the economy contracted by 2.5 per cent from January to March — compared with an earlier reported decline of 1.9 per cent. Assuming yesterday’s figures are broadly accurate, though, the economy will have to register growth of 6.5 per cent during the last three months of the year — a quarterly rate never seen before — to meet Alistair Darling’s forecasts for 2009. The Chancellor predicted in March that the economy would contract by between 3.25 per cent and 3.75 per cent this year. Economists now consider that hopelessly optimistic. There are also doubts over whether Mr Darling’s forecast of 1.25 per cent growth next year is possible. Howard Archer, chief UK and European economist at IHS Global Insight, said: “It looks increasingly questionable whether GDP growth can even reach 1 per cent in 2010 as it is coming from a weaker base.” Mr McGuire added: “In terms of our growth outlook, it is clearly ‘W’ shaped — the UK is the best candidate for a ‘double dip’ recession. W e think things look better for the last three months of the year but that is based almost entirely on a pick-up in consumer spending ahead of the VAT hike in the new year. “The Government may be able to say that, as promised, they have led the UK out of recession — but we think they will only have done so by borrowing growth from next year.” Data just published shows that the services sector in the eurozone is now expanding at its fastest rate for nearly two years. Separately, data for Germany pointed to the country’s manufacturing sector expanding for the first time in more than a year, while another survey showed that business morale is also picking up. With Japan, Germany and France having pulled out of recession between April and June, and data published later this month expected to point to the US having done so between July and September, economists fear that Britain looks exceptionally weak.[ Auf dieses Posting antworten ]
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