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Worthless police: "You can't expect the police to risk themselves for you." - HSE

So there you have it.

We have been disarmed in good faith that the police will protect us.

We can't even carry a penknife, pepper spray let alone a Taser. Forget
about a handgun.

And now we've been told that the police can't be expected to risk
their necks to save us.

It is what I said all along, public disarmament is an exercise in
public control and consolidating power to our Communist leaders.
Political power comes out of the barrel of a gun - disarm the public
and they never have to fear us. It has never been about public safety,
except to morons in la-la land who believe so.

The police should be disbanded. The taxes that would have gone to them
should go to personal firearms, armour, alarms, training, exercise and
savings.

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http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1218911/You-expect-police-heroes-Public-want-says-
health-safety-report.html

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You can't expect the police to be heroes: Public want too much, says
health and safety report

By Matthew Hickley and Neil Sears
Last updated at 10:31 AM on 08th October 2009

The public have ' unrealistic expectations' that police will put
themselves in danger to protect ordinary people, according to new
safety guidelines for officers.

The Health and Safety Executive caused outrage by declaring that
officers confronted with dangerous situations-while fighting crime or
trying to guard the public 'may choose not to put themselves at
unreasonable risk'.

Its guidance published yesterday firmly plays down the need for
officers to show bravery in the course of their duty if they make a
'personal choice' not to.

It states: 'There is often an unrealistic public expectation that
officers and staff will put themselves at risk to protect the public.'

The document concedes that 'very occasionally in extreme cases',
police may be justified in putting themselves in jeopardy - in which
case they may be let off without being prosecuted under health and
safety laws.

The report - which has the backing of senior police chiefs - prompted
anger and astonishment last night.

Paul Beshenivsky, whose police officer wife Sharon was shot dead by
armed robbers in 2005, condemned the HSE as 'meddling do-gooders',
saying: 'At the end of the day a police officer's job does involve
putting your life on the line. Sharon knew that, and she got killed.'

He told the Mail: 'The public are not allowed to take the law into
their own hands, and now the crazy health and safety brigade want to
stop the police dealing with criminals as well.

'Where would you draw the line? Would you say, "That shoplifter that
looks on drugs, he might have a knife, I'll walk away from that one?"
The whole thing is madness.'

Police forces have been subject to health and safety legislation since
1998.

But it is the latest document's advice on risk-taking by individual
officers that has caused anger.
Officers who gave their all

The report says police officers 'may, very occasionally in extreme
cases, decide to put themselves at risk in acts of true heroism'.

In these 'rare circumstances', the HSE adds, 'it would not be in the
public interest to take action against the individual'.

But it adds: 'Equally HSE, like the Police Service, recognises that in
such extreme cases everyone has the right to make personal choices and
that individuals may choose not to put themselves at unreasonable
risk.'

The guidelines have been backed by the Association of Chief Police
Officers and the rank-and-file Police Federation.

But Sid Mackay, a retired Met Police Chief Superintendent whose
daughter, PC Nina Mackay, was stabbed to death on duty in 1997, said:
'They claim it is "unrealistic" for the public to expect the police to
face danger, but that's what the public believe the police are for,
and rightly so.

'The HSE will never understand, because they are completely risk-
averse, but they have got their fingers into operational policing and
they think they're the experts.

'The police are choking on paperwork, carrying out endless risk
assessments for every operation, and then we wonder why they have
become so cautious.'

Anthony Ganderton, the stepfather of ten-year- old Jordon Lyon who
drowned in Wigan in 2007 after he jumped into a pond to save his
stepsister, also attacked the guidelines.

Two police community service officers who arrived at the scene stood
on the bank and radioed for help instead of jumping in to rescue the
children, because they were not appropriately trained so risked
breaking health and safety rules.

He told the Mail: 'The point is they should do whatever they can to
help people in trouble, especially when there are children involved.'

HSE chairman Judith Hackitt said yesterday: 'This statement will
assist senior police officers in balancing the risks involved in their
duties to fight crime with meeting their health and safety obligations
to their own employees and the public.'

The Home Office said: 'Health and safety laws are there to protect the
police as well as the public, but they must never hinder officers in
the execution of their duty.'

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